Slicing Beats: Seperate Program, or In your DAW?
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weyheyhey !! wrote:s-n-s wrote:
thats close to the way i have started working on my stuff
Ah nice Yeah, that's the method that i've just developed naturally since I started using renoise a couple of years ago. I think it's the best way to do things, although can be quite time consuming innit!
yeah it is time consuming,but its also a fun way to do things IMHO
something i also do sometimes is use slicex in renoise,and then export to sample,and then play with a lot of different effects,and after that sometimes run it through beat creator to make variations
and then import into renoise again for 09XX destruction
Maybe this is amaeteur but I'm still learning anyways.
I use FL Studio 9 XXL and I'm training myself with Reason 4. I don't have a MIDI controller yet. which makes things very frustrating, But anyways I use SliceX. But what I do is I load some sort of Kick in it and then send it tot eh piano roll and I shorten the notes, or articulate them, to give it that kick line affect with breaks in it, shortened drums, etc. I use it for loops to, same effect. It's getting the tempo right I struggle with.
I use FL Studio 9 XXL and I'm training myself with Reason 4. I don't have a MIDI controller yet. which makes things very frustrating, But anyways I use SliceX. But what I do is I load some sort of Kick in it and then send it tot eh piano roll and I shorten the notes, or articulate them, to give it that kick line affect with breaks in it, shortened drums, etc. I use it for loops to, same effect. It's getting the tempo right I struggle with.
- Drillmouth
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I use the sample editor in Cubase4 to sort out the tempo and timing. I try to not work in 4/4, i tend to find it easier in 3/4 or 7/4 so i have to move things about a lot anyway. I like the sample editor in Cubase cos of the time warp tool. Trying to learn Soundforge, but i'm not great at it. Like it though, cos i can use plug ins with it unlike Audacity which i do still use, but only for making loops tidy.
I'm trying to learn ableton so as to produce my tracks.my problems are,
1)even when I quantize and slice the beats correctly, I don't know how to make a drum kit or whatever so as to have have them pre-sliced for next tracks.
2)when I slice them and want to put them in order so as to create beat/break riffs, the use of 1/16 and 1/8 together is a huge problem. The length of the sample follows the quantization chosen and I have to change it if I want for example to use
ghost hat - ghost snare - snare . How can someone do it in a similar way as in fruity loops and cubase,where you just put them where you want and can resize them by dragging the mouse ?
1)even when I quantize and slice the beats correctly, I don't know how to make a drum kit or whatever so as to have have them pre-sliced for next tracks.
2)when I slice them and want to put them in order so as to create beat/break riffs, the use of 1/16 and 1/8 together is a huge problem. The length of the sample follows the quantization chosen and I have to change it if I want for example to use
ghost hat - ghost snare - snare . How can someone do it in a similar way as in fruity loops and cubase,where you just put them where you want and can resize them by dragging the mouse ?
- TenisuBaka
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I am a complete noob, so forgive me. What exactly is a tracker? How is this different from a DAW? is it independent or used together with a DAW?
Basically, I am extremely influenced by Squarepusher's Hard Normal Daddy and Ultravisitor specifically and want to make similar. Got Record/Reason, just bought Alchemy on the GB though I have no idea how to use it, and thinking about getting Cubase 5 because of the drum editing stuff it seems to have. Would this tracker thing be better?
Basically, I am extremely influenced by Squarepusher's Hard Normal Daddy and Ultravisitor specifically and want to make similar. Got Record/Reason, just bought Alchemy on the GB though I have no idea how to use it, and thinking about getting Cubase 5 because of the drum editing stuff it seems to have. Would this tracker thing be better?
- Wobbatha Christie
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I load my breaks in to Ableton's arrangement view and just slice bits out manually, the fastest way for me personally.
09xx in Renoise. I'm too lazy physically edit my breaks like that.
[of course, the moment I turn back to Milky, I have to do it by hand, because the sample offset command isn't percentage based, it's offset based...]
Nothing is done externally though.
Also, @TenisuBaka:
A tracker is a kind of DAW of sorts [well, at least Renoise]. It's pretty much a sequencer based around vertical note lists. Examples of this would be Renoise, MilkyTracker, and Impulse Tracker.
[of course, the moment I turn back to Milky, I have to do it by hand, because the sample offset command isn't percentage based, it's offset based...]
Nothing is done externally though.
Also, @TenisuBaka:
A tracker is a kind of DAW of sorts [well, at least Renoise]. It's pretty much a sequencer based around vertical note lists. Examples of this would be Renoise, MilkyTracker, and Impulse Tracker.
- sirkoDrive
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i destroy th breaks in my DAW, magix music maker... even if it sound fucked up, its a cool programm for cutting.
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