I Hate Breakcore

by **pimperteen** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:12 pm

brainfuck3r wrote:yes

well forget about xanopticon.. lets talk about the sounds. and the drum programming.

im looking for this particular sounds. and the way of making that style . ( for me is not just idm)

1.vsnares (HUge crhome cylinder box) http://rapidshare.com/files/31889128/Venetian_Snares_-_Huge_Chrome_Cylinder_Box_Unfolding.www.gabber.od.ua.rar

2. Spitfire Lynch http://www.mediafire.com/?6zdtidem5jb http://www.mediafire.com/?71ngjm1oty3

3. Datachi http://rapidshare.com/files/29147017/Datachi_-_Shock_Diamonds_-_2006.www.gabber.od.ua.rar

someone can tell me ?? i just need ideas suggestions. i have allready a couple of months trying to figure out what makes them different but i cant find what it is. i need help on this . im going to put the links to download the music so maybe anyone can help me to find out what it is.

i know that maybe is just clicks and cuts . glitchy sounds . but how they work talking about drum signatures. they programming the drums really out of time . they use loopz but is really hard to notice them . how they do that?

Lots of time, make the effort. You want to be spending 30 minutes on a bar, not 30 seconds. I didn't listen to Datachi, but it sounds like Spitfire Lynch uses some kinda chop-up plugin. I know venetian snares sequences every hit by hand. Not that it matters either way, as long as the end result sounds good. Ultimately, put the time in, don't be lazy. And don't imitate.

by **djtheblade** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:17 pm

Patience is all you need, you have to literally hand selecting every bleep and every hit, it's no good sticking an amen break in and hoping you can use Glitch or Scrubby to work a miracle. Use them in places obviously, but you have to get right in to the smallest milliseconds to paste in a huge variety of noises.

by **DIGIT216** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:40 am

pimperteen wrote:i dont wanna dis xanopticon too much but seriously...

it's well made, but, all his shit sounds the same! i listened to the three tracks on "the silver key" - it's like one big track split into thirds - totally indistinguishable. and that schizophrenia set, I downloaded that and skipped through it... identical all the way through.

maybe you should listen to his stuff in it's entirety...

his track symptom on the jagoff uprising comp is pretty sweet. also his alembic 12" is pretty nice...

hearing him play live is also really just a great experience, especially on a good system. i'm not trying to say ryan is incontestably the best out there, but the man makes some nasty beats. i know there are elements that sound repetitive, but it's all interesting, imo...

no matter how you slice, edit, glitch, etc., there is almost no way to avoid being "repetitive", even being "non-repetitive" gets "repetitive"...

i've seen both ryan and pete play many times. can't say i would prefer one over there, cause they are both amazing at what they do...

to be honest, it's hard to walk that line between repetitive and not. there are times that it's totally great and well placed, but people who over do it sometimes, at least imo, lose out on certain elements, that are amazing and i would love to hear more of, but in the end it's up to the producer/performer to decide how it's played, etc...

by **John Kaufka** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:40 am

thanks everybody ., for your answers .

im going to upload one of my songs and let me know what do you think about my stuff. feedback will be apreciated.

but im still want to find out what is the secret of them .

and i am not trying to imitate by the way. i just want to know if they have a way to produce .
like s...mat for example hahaha.

the song will be under John kaufka name. post the link here later.

by **20zerobpm** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:03 am

DIGIT216 wrote:
pimperteen wrote:i dont wanna dis xanopticon too much but seriously...

it's well made, but, all his shit sounds the same! i listened to the three tracks on "the silver key" - it's like one big track split into thirds - totally indistinguishable. and that schizophrenia set, I downloaded that and skipped through it... identical all the way through.

Dude, this says it all! Wait untill you see these guys performing live, i'll bet you've never seen or heard anything like it before!!

For you, i have uploaded a small video on yt of xanopticon performing live.. The video is quite dark, but it is all about the music he's making!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gOgwa-Recc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRh2tMNNKzE

Both were made at Smackdown last february..
And if you're still not convinced, try listening to his latest set Live @ Zorba

http://rapidshare.com/files/106954831/x ... 080210.mp3

Don't know if i'm allowed to post these things, if not please let me know :roll:

by **Silent Frog** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:42 am

20zerobpm wrote:And if you're still not convinced, try listening to his latest set Live @ Zorba

http://rapidshare.com/files/106954831/x ... 080210.mp3

Don't know if i'm allowed to post these things, if not please let me know

Yeah live sets are generally fine (there's tons in our download section).

It's pissing me off a bit at the moment actually! I'm generally sympathetic with anti-piracy stuff from artists not wanting their albums to be downloaded or leaked and shit like that because, obviously, that's their livelihood and they've worked hard to produce it. Live music however is different as it was performed in public in the first place and if anything, having live sets available for download would increase revenue for the artist as people will hear how good they are and book them to play. I've seen a number of dedicated mix sites remove all their downloads because of pressure from record companies. First mixupload.com (which wasn't even for big name DJs) and now mixesdb.com. Thankfully though, breakcore and the rest of the underground electronica scene are less uppity about their 'property'! Rant over.

Rant over.

by **pimperteen** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:46 pm

20zerobpm wrote:Dude, this says it all! Wait untill you see these guys performing live, i'll bet you've never seen or heard anything like it before!!

For you, i have uploaded a small video on yt of xanopticon performing live.. The video is quite dark, but it is all about the music he's making!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gOgwa-Recc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRh2tMNNKzE

Both were made at Smackdown last february..
And if you're still not convinced, try listening to his latest set Live @ Zorba

http://rapidshare.com/files/106954831/x ... 080210.mp3

Don't know if i'm allowed to post these things, if not please let me know

ok. i downloaded the live set and really was quite bored by 10 minutes in. I'm sure it's great live though, really, it's quite a different story I'm certain.

i've been listening to liminal space a lot recently, I quite like it.

but please get rid of your vile profile picture or make it smaller, i'm at work and don't need a fucking pair of giant slutty tits on my screen when my boss walks past ok?

by **thescythian** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:12 pm

Holy crap...i see boobs up there!!!! Are those yours!?!

On the topic of xanopticon, i love listening to his stuff at home in headphones, I would never drop that stuff on a floor though.

by **thescythian** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:14 pm

Awww, I just looked at HIS myspace. bummer...

ihatebreakcore.com wrote:stupid american...

by **20zerobpm** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:38 am

pimperteen wrote:
20zerobpm wrote:Dude, this says it all! Wait untill you see these guys performing live, i'll bet you've never seen or heard anything like it before!!

For you, i have uploaded a small video on yt of xanopticon performing live.. The video is quite dark, but it is all about the music he's making!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gOgwa-Recc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRh2tMNNKzE

Both were made at Smackdown last february..
And if you're still not convinced, try listening to his latest set Live @ Zorba

http://rapidshare.com/files/106954831/x ... 080210.mp3

Don't know if i'm allowed to post these things, if not please let me know

ok. i downloaded the live set and really was quite bored by 10 minutes in. I'm sure it's great live though, really, it's quite a different story I'm certain.

i've been listening to liminal space a lot recently, I quite like it.

but please get rid of your vile profile picture or make it smaller, i'm at work and don't need a fucking pair of giant slutty tits on my screen when my boss walks past ok?

haha, i'm sorry for that! will change the pic :roll:

by **PEPCORE** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:42 am

Ja, kan je je avatar even serieus resizen, ik had je al een pm gestuurd erover, maar dat is meestal een beetje moeilijk te vinden op deze site.

EDIT:, ah je heb hem al veranderd, sorry bij deze dan

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